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Justin received his Ph.D. in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Louisiana at Monroe. He would later return to ULM as a core faculty member in the doctoral training program in Creative Systemic Studies. In addition to being a Licensed Professional Counselor and Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Justin has been a systems based counselor educator for almost 20 years. He has served in a number of leadership and administrative roles ranging from academic settings to licensure and state/national level associations. Justin maintains a focus on integrating systems, complexity, and transdisciplinarity into diverse clinical, academic, and leadership contexts. He has a passion for supervising and mentoring clinicians, change initiators, healers, and curious journeyers in the pursuit of creating difference. Justin’s research interests include systems based applications, supervision, and non-traditional ways of investigating human complexities. He also enjoys supporting and learning with students, clinicians, and fellow faculty in areas outside of his usual knowing or clinical applications. “To learn difference is to learn different.”